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An Example of Government Fed Too Much of Our Money and Out of Control
Hey Chief
Don't blame the Government for a few as-holes who want to abuse the powers and priveleges of Government.
When I was in the Marines I overheard a Gunney yelling to a Lance Corporal "You can Hate some of the people in my Marine Corps but you DO NOT hate the Marine Corps" I have had many years to think about what he was saying and he was right. It is the people that make up the organization and som eof the people can screw it up for the rest. In the Corps in 68 and 69 they tried Drafting and wow! did we get some real low-lifes. Thos elow-lifes which were less than 10% of the entire Marine Corps gave the rest of us the bad names.
Like the Mayor and Govonor of N.O. they are to blame and how they have tried to turn the spotlight over to President Bush and try to stay in the shadows. The ones in your article will not be under investigation because someone STOOD UP and said NO.... One person CAN make a difference. The real owner has drawn attention to this country reps and these reps better hope and pray that they had legit reasons for what they were doing because they are now under the BIG LIGHTs. You have helped it by publishing on this site.... That is what I was trying to say earlier. Ignore it and it will stay, Fight it and it will leave.
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Hey Chief
Don't blame the Government for a few as-holes who want to abuse the powers and priveleges of Government.
When I was in the Marines I overheard a Gunney yelling to a Lance Corporal "You can Hate some of the people in my Marine Corps but you DO NOT hate the Marine Corps" I have had many years to think about what he was saying and he was right. It is the people that make up the organization and som eof the people can screw it up for the rest. In the Corps in 68 and 69 they tried Drafting and wow! did we get some real low-lifes. Thos elow-lifes which were less than 10% of the entire Marine Corps gave the rest of us the bad names.
Like the Mayor and Govonor of N.O. they are to blame and how they have tried to turn the spotlight over to President Bush and try to stay in the shadows. The ones in your article will not be under investigation because someone STOOD UP and said NO.... One person CAN make a difference. The real owner has drawn attention to this country reps and these reps better hope and pray that they had legit reasons for what they were doing because they are now under the BIG LIGHTs. You have helped it by publishing on this site.... That is what I was trying to say earlier. Ignore it and it will stay, Fight it and it will leave.
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An Example of Government Fed Too Much of Our Money and Out of Control
Harvey
I have never heard of a Mall claiming Eminent domain. It is Public but not government owned and only the Government can take a person's preperty thru eminent domain and that is usally after fair market price has been paid. I have only hear dof ONE case where a bridge had to cross a river in this one area, it was practicle for the road to go the route it went and there was NO other feasible solution or location other than the location being looked at for the bridge. The lady who lived there was offered Fair Market Value and she said NO! and they offered more than Fair Market Value and she still said No! and then thru eminent domain the Government took possession of the land needed for the bridge and that was the end of that. I would like to see a Mall take possession of private property thru emninent domain. I will bet it will NEVER happen. If you people in Syracuse allow it to happen, you all needs your heads examine and your people in involved sent to Jail.
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Chief
My mom was killed many years ago in a Gas Explosion, we lost EVERYTHING. The family Bible had the last entry made in 1760 something. Paintings, coins, hand me down furniture, milk glass, depression glass, hummels, etc etc all gone, blown to bits.
I sued and for several years we debated the Fair Market Value. It is Fair and if you were the one who had to pay, you would be defending it. As far as your arguement about Family Value, you are right. Like my Lawyer said to me, that Bible was priceless to the family but to anyone else it was really worthless and Value is based on what someone would pay for it. That is the ONLY True Compensation otherwise it isn't considered compensation but rather selling price and that is only good if there is a buyer willing to pay. I know it seems unfair and for what we got compared to what was lost would make a grown man cry. After looking at it from both sides, the settlement seemed as far as I could get, if I had wanted to take the time a search out buyers for the items lost I don't really think anyone would have been willing to pay for that Bible what we felt it was worth. So thereofre, what was it really worth? remove sentiment and leave only the value.
The Bill of Rights 5th amendment says JUST COMPENSATION which is interupted as Fair Market Value.
Think from BOTH sides and what would you prose as being MORE fair? When you are talking about the Taxpayers or the collective of your Town etc, why should they pay more than what any of them is willing to buy it for? I can stand here all day and say MY Bible is worth $100,000 but unless I have someone willing to pay that amount, it IS NOT worth it regardless how sentimentaly I am attached to it.
As much as I do NOT agree with the 9-11 compensations by the U.S. Government ( they are NOT an Inusrance Company) the compensations for lost of life was based on several factors. The question first is simply what is the value of the human life lost? tough question. Historic homes can be subsituted and rebuilt, life can not.
1. Did you share the Same bed? (usually a spouse will get more than a sibling)
2. How old was the person ( To establish how many productive years were left based on the Avg life span)
3. What was their annual earnings?
But even still, things could change and this compensation did not allow for that. What if the guy would have won the Lottery? how could that be predicted or covered? what if the guy became a criminal and ended up in Jail for life? yet the family was reimbursed for a productive life. Too many factors, no one can say for sure, but anyone who has a better formula I am sure people will listen.
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No! I don't think I was comparing Apples to Oranges.
You speak of the state as it as an endless pit of Gold. It is the Taxpayers, You and me that is in that pit.
I mean we could challenge the word OWNERSHIP and the results would have most baffled. The point I was making is that if the State or the Town needs that piece of property to put in a Bridge or a Highway, they will offer the Fair Market Value, which is based on the Appraisal of that land, if you thought that land was worth more, then you should have Grieved the assessment when it was first apprasied. Is it denying you an oppurtunity to wait it out and try selling later? Yes! but the needs of the many out wiegh the needs of the few. Is it fair? Well not always but that is based upon the people inolved and how it is represented. Can a Mall take possession of land for a purpose of building a Mall. NO! that is why I would like to see the premises to this story. The RailRoad could not even do it and Ranchers were cocered into selling by their own dimwits and today we refer to that as "Being Railroaded" If you want to be stubborn, the LAW IS on YOUR side. Eminent Domain has not been used very often and in times where a Dam is going to put in, then they will buy ALL of the proerty from the owner. otherwise it is ONLY as Needed.
Companies do NOT have that Power to take over. The Mall down the road a few miles, took many years to go in. Because from the beginning when they first starting to lay out their plans and apply, much of the property had been re zoned and transferred ownership. The Mall went in and everyone left Happy.
The By-Pass was in the workks for 25 years and only ended up going Half of the distance as originally planned, becasue many people who owned the land later, did NOT want to sell and because there were other alternatives, the state could NOT use Eminent Domain to aquire the land needed, instead they halted the project.
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I went to a few in the NJ area you are from, I found some on hold, I found one that was a manufacturing bussiness in an area zoned for retail but was not able to find one that went thru all of the way. I have not stopped looking. Please point one out that involves, Private people.. Thanks.
Sounds to me if there is one and I note most of the pins are in Organized Crime controlled areas. Wow! let's talk about garbage contracts in NYC...
I don't understand how Private Companies can use Eminent Domain to achieve levels of Profit. I would beleive it was thru Cooruption and not thru legal avenues.
As I look thru the rest of the country, they are far and few in between and many states have had ZERO. I don't really see where there was NO COMPENSATION but do see where there is some pretty shady action taking place.
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call 1-800-Bill-oreilly
Maybe taking some of this stuff national will put the pressure on. We had that silly ass poor excuse for a Judge who gave a child raper 90 days and Bill O'Reilly made it national and now the raper ended up with 10 years. So things can happen when the whole Nation is watching. We get so involved in ourselves that we don't even noticed a Sunset along the Interstate, it takes someone to stop and attraction attention adn the next thing you know there is bumper to bumper jams.
Attract Big Gys like 60 minutes and the what not.
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He had a shotgun that was a bit too short by Fed Standards. Got his wife and kid killed for that. The ATF is a whole nother story.
Bunch of wannabe storm troopers who feel they are the only chosen ones.
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Weaver may have had beleifs that were different from you or me, but he wasn't a NUT. Maybe he was a little to overboard in some of his beleifs but that is all based on perspective.
Look up why there is a shot gun length law, find out how old that law is and do we really still have a problem with short shotguns? The point was that Weaver was on trial for what was 1 inch of barrel length? wow! people died for a inch of barrel? That made the shotgun a much shorter range and possible screwd it up ballistically. Barrel lengths are as much a part of the design as any other part. Not allowing the gas pressures to peak and stay behind the projectile for a longer period of time would cause the velocity to be far less than designed and range would be decreased big time.. so what was the problem? ATF looking for a fight? I have heard some real Horror stories about these wannabes, how they have battered doors down without warrants and roughed people up. Being an ATF agent to some of their memebers gives them an SS attitude.
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Horse
That is HIGHLY misuse of what Emienent Domain was for, if people don't fight these Private People who slip lobby money under the table in order to get their way. Rockefeller did that in Vermont many years ago and was busted for it. But if people are too busy to take a stand with these victims of abuse and not demand investigations and fair market value, then these people will possess a newer power and it will get harder and harder to overcome with each New case that goes unchallenged.
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Chief
I fully understand the point.
Go to this website and read it, it is short and will speak exactly of what th etopic is here and what can and IS being done.
http://www.cato.org/events/020514pf.html
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Chief and Horse
One only needs to do a Google on Eminent Domain and the results are staggering.
Here is one from the Christian Scince Monitor. http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0509/p01s03-ussc.html
The point I am making and the point I seem to be reading in site after site is simply, the PEOPLE need to Unite and make a stand and draw attention to these abuses. If everyone just sits around and allows it to happen, it will become the NORMAL and become deeply rooted and harder to overcome later.
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